Thursday, February 15, 2007
A Peacekeeping Team to Iran
Please pray for jeff carr and this group as they will meet with religious and political leaders in Iran.
Monday, February 12, 2007
the emerging church and the spider
i have had this idea in my head for a little while, but just have not blogged it. for some of my readers they probably have no idea about the emerging church. so here is a link to a quick definition for those that are not familiar with it. and those that think bad of it, too bad and not my problem.
the book, the spider and the starfish speaks out people who are caught in the old command and control system of organizations and that they do not understand organizations that are decentralized. they should learn to understand them, because a decentralized organization has the ability to really create problems for the centralized organization. here is an example. napster was created to pretty much screw the music industry by allowing people to share music or as the music industry saw it... steal music. napster had a creator. the music industry went straight at the creator to sue him and put him out of business. what happened? napster was shut down! what happened next? three to five other peer sharing music softwares were made available on the internet for people to share music. the music industry believed that if they took out the leader that they problem would be solved. you see, people want to share music and will continue to share music no matter what the music industry does because it does not rely on one person to provide it. the more times the music industry went after people, the more new softwares were made available. now there is something called e-mule that is like napster but the creator is anonymous. he/she does not want to make money and no one knows who it is, so they cannot sue him/her. the book discusses that in a true decentralized organization that you can take out someone you perceive as a leader, but really is just a person that people follow at the time until someone better comes along. the idea or organization is not built upon one person, but is built upon an ideology.
ok, this is longer than post of my posts but hang in there. i see a very similar pattern in the way that many traditional conservative christian leaders are dealing with the emerging church. they have tried to pin point people they consider the leaders of the movement. brian mclaren, rob bell, dan kimball and i could name so many more. the interesting thing is that if you ask these people they would not say that they are a leader in the movement. brian would even say that it is a conversation and is not a denomination. non-traditional churches are popping up all over the place and they are not asking for permission from one of these leaders. they may cling on to some of the ideas and practices of these leaders, but it is truly a decentralized leadership that looks toward an ideology for direction. these churches are aspiring to be missional and followers of christ. as much as many people who do not like the emerging movement think that these people follow a person, they do not. if we were never to hear from brian or rob again. this movement would not die. you would just see a new person take the place of brian or rob.
the more people try to hit the emerging church leaders over the head with a hammer hoping that they will go away. they will just be creating a multiplication strategy that is similar to the early church.
the book, the spider and the starfish speaks out people who are caught in the old command and control system of organizations and that they do not understand organizations that are decentralized. they should learn to understand them, because a decentralized organization has the ability to really create problems for the centralized organization. here is an example. napster was created to pretty much screw the music industry by allowing people to share music or as the music industry saw it... steal music. napster had a creator. the music industry went straight at the creator to sue him and put him out of business. what happened? napster was shut down! what happened next? three to five other peer sharing music softwares were made available on the internet for people to share music. the music industry believed that if they took out the leader that they problem would be solved. you see, people want to share music and will continue to share music no matter what the music industry does because it does not rely on one person to provide it. the more times the music industry went after people, the more new softwares were made available. now there is something called e-mule that is like napster but the creator is anonymous. he/she does not want to make money and no one knows who it is, so they cannot sue him/her. the book discusses that in a true decentralized organization that you can take out someone you perceive as a leader, but really is just a person that people follow at the time until someone better comes along. the idea or organization is not built upon one person, but is built upon an ideology.
ok, this is longer than post of my posts but hang in there. i see a very similar pattern in the way that many traditional conservative christian leaders are dealing with the emerging church. they have tried to pin point people they consider the leaders of the movement. brian mclaren, rob bell, dan kimball and i could name so many more. the interesting thing is that if you ask these people they would not say that they are a leader in the movement. brian would even say that it is a conversation and is not a denomination. non-traditional churches are popping up all over the place and they are not asking for permission from one of these leaders. they may cling on to some of the ideas and practices of these leaders, but it is truly a decentralized leadership that looks toward an ideology for direction. these churches are aspiring to be missional and followers of christ. as much as many people who do not like the emerging movement think that these people follow a person, they do not. if we were never to hear from brian or rob again. this movement would not die. you would just see a new person take the place of brian or rob.
the more people try to hit the emerging church leaders over the head with a hammer hoping that they will go away. they will just be creating a multiplication strategy that is similar to the early church.
Sunday, February 11, 2007
the forgotten ways
i have been encouraged to read this book by a number of friends and is a great follow up to the spider and the starfish. the spider and the starfish has a great message to people of faith to stop trying to control the holy spirit and the people who desire to follow christ. the authors never mention anything regarding the holy spirit or issues of faith, but if you are a follower of christ the message goes right to your heart. the reason, i say this seems to be a great follow up to the book is that "the forgotten ways" shows examples of this being lived out and gives an ideology for us to follow in creating communities of faith that are organic and decentralized. here is one statement that the author quotes from another source...
'Far too long, historians have accepted the claim that the conversion of the Emperor Constantine (ca. 285-337) caused the triumph of Christianity. To the contrary, he destroyed its most attractive and dynamic aspects, turning a high-intensity, grassroots movement into an arrogant institution controlled by an elite who often managed to both brutal and lax.' Rodney Stark, For the Glory of God.
here is a link to a blog concerning the book and you will get a better understanding of the book. this quote sets up the idea that the church moving from the fringes of society to the central has over the years caused it to loose its power and influence. i have many times sense the church for the most part being controlled by "an arrogant institution controlled by an elite who often manages with brutality and lax. this book has my mind going and dreaming about a place that i would feel comfortable calling my faith community that i can share my doubts, dreams and struggles in my life as a follower of christ.
i know i have been pretty quiet lately on the blog, but i feel like this could be followed by many more thoughts that will allow myself to better understand this book and the message of Christ.
'Far too long, historians have accepted the claim that the conversion of the Emperor Constantine (ca. 285-337) caused the triumph of Christianity. To the contrary, he destroyed its most attractive and dynamic aspects, turning a high-intensity, grassroots movement into an arrogant institution controlled by an elite who often managed to both brutal and lax.' Rodney Stark, For the Glory of God.
here is a link to a blog concerning the book and you will get a better understanding of the book. this quote sets up the idea that the church moving from the fringes of society to the central has over the years caused it to loose its power and influence. i have many times sense the church for the most part being controlled by "an arrogant institution controlled by an elite who often manages with brutality and lax. this book has my mind going and dreaming about a place that i would feel comfortable calling my faith community that i can share my doubts, dreams and struggles in my life as a follower of christ.
i know i have been pretty quiet lately on the blog, but i feel like this could be followed by many more thoughts that will allow myself to better understand this book and the message of Christ.
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